Comments on: EUObs: EU’s failure in Georgia http://npopescu.yam.md/2009/10/11/eu%e2%80%99s-failure-in-georgia/ blog incoerent Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:35:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: octav http://npopescu.yam.md/2009/10/11/eu%e2%80%99s-failure-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-54919 octav Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:37:25 +0000 http://npopescu.yam.ro/?p=1882#comment-54919 "We all know that both Georgia and Russia (with South Ossetia) are responsible for escalating the game around the conflicts zones and ruthlessly rushing into a downward spiral of militarisation of the conflicts zones, particularly after Kosovo’s declaration of independence and Georgia’s perceived moves towards NATO in the first half of 2008." 1. as spune nu declaratia de independenta a Kosovo, ci recunoasterea acesteia de catre occident si suportul/contributia acestuia. idea se intelege, dar ai spus-o asa nu stiu cum de parca nu ai vrea sa superi (mai mult decit trebuie) pe nimeni :) 2. ma bucur ca pina la urma recunosti impactul cazului kosovo asupra evenimentelor din georgia... asta in legatura cu discutiile de pe blog de acum citeva luni ;) sint de acord cu teza postului. razboiul a fost si esecul ue. “We all know that both Georgia and Russia (with South Ossetia) are responsible for escalating the game around the conflicts zones and ruthlessly rushing into a downward spiral of militarisation of the conflicts zones, particularly after Kosovo’s declaration of independence and Georgia’s perceived moves towards NATO in the first half of 2008.”
1. as spune nu declaratia de independenta a Kosovo, ci recunoasterea acesteia de catre occident si suportul/contributia acestuia. idea se intelege, dar ai spus-o asa nu stiu cum de parca nu ai vrea sa superi (mai mult decit trebuie) pe nimeni :)
2. ma bucur ca pina la urma recunosti impactul cazului kosovo asupra evenimentelor din georgia… asta in legatura cu discutiile de pe blog de acum citeva luni ;)

sint de acord cu teza postului. razboiul a fost si esecul ue.

]]> By: Daniel http://npopescu.yam.md/2009/10/11/eu%e2%80%99s-failure-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-54917 Daniel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:17:19 +0000 http://npopescu.yam.ro/?p=1882#comment-54917 Good post. Too often I think the discussion is split between those afraid to irritate Russia, and those whishing to state an example in the face of Russia. The EU would do much better not to care about Russia, but rather about principles of democracy. But in stead Bruxelles wants to play the big boys' game of geopolitics... Georgia is one sad example of this. Obviously the EU was trying to be with Georgia no matterhow Saakashvili ran the country. And of course thy failed, since a military EU intervention against Russia is not really thinkable, whereas a Russian intervention against Georgia is. Another sad example of putting principles aside for geopolitical concerns is the mistreatment of Turkey, who is not accepted/rejected according to its own performance, but on the whims of European politicians. If Iceland faced the same treatment it would make a scandal. One could argue that Turkey is not Europe due to geography, but this is not really what the EU does officially either... Good post. Too often I think the discussion is split between those afraid to irritate Russia, and those whishing to state an example in the face of Russia.

The EU would do much better not to care about Russia, but rather about principles of democracy. But in stead Bruxelles wants to play the big boys’ game of geopolitics…

Georgia is one sad example of this. Obviously the EU was trying to be with Georgia no matterhow Saakashvili ran the country. And of course thy failed, since a military EU intervention against Russia is not really thinkable, whereas a Russian intervention against Georgia is.

Another sad example of putting principles aside for geopolitical concerns is the mistreatment of Turkey, who is not accepted/rejected according to its own performance, but on the whims of European politicians. If Iceland faced the same treatment it would make a scandal.

One could argue that Turkey is not Europe due to geography, but this is not really what the EU does officially either…

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